tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4849467099714933609.post6015348712605092981..comments2021-09-24T09:05:20.527-04:00Comments on Red Guard Camp: A History of “Mass Line” Failings, The New Communist Movement Then And Now, pt 3 of 4Red Guard Camperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15662028829927536536noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4849467099714933609.post-72789586138753499072007-12-19T00:33:00.000-05:002007-12-19T00:33:00.000-05:00You are right about the Prairie Fire book. I looke...You are right about the Prairie Fire book. I looked and couldn't find it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4849467099714933609.post-82958287725453028762007-12-18T15:16:00.000-05:002007-12-18T15:16:00.000-05:00I could be wrong about the Prairie Fire book. I wi...I could be wrong about the Prairie Fire book. I will check a copy later and produce the quote if I can find it.<BR/><BR/>There is one document in Franklin’s From the Movement toward Revolution that quotes Lin Biao. I am certain of this. But, the document in the Franklin book doesn't go all the way on the LA issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4849467099714933609.post-13787042850818315952007-12-18T14:31:00.000-05:002007-12-18T14:31:00.000-05:00I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Lin Pia...I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Lin Piao isn't mentioned in Prairie Fire. There may be a quote by him, but I'm rather sure he is not named in the book.<BR/><BR/>RYM1/WUO, most definitely had a better line than the NCM. But it wasn't that great of a line. They wanted it both ways. On one hand Amerika was a bought off nation- one the other it was a major area of oppression. While these were both true, the former was principle. I think WUO held that imperialism was in permanent crisis and revolution was on the horizon. This probably led them to believe that much of Amerika would become reproletarized . In hindsight they appear to have vacillated on the labor aristocracy a lot.<BR/><BR/>But to their credit, they were one of the major groups to first break from the old-"Marxist" dogma about the "worldwide working class" and seriously entertain the idea of a labor aristocracy. Their path breaking no doubt inspired many contemporaries.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you would be so kind enough to provide a link or name of the Bruce Franklin compilation that you mentioned?Red Guard Camperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15662028829927536536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4849467099714933609.post-63873446841507380592007-12-18T11:09:00.000-05:002007-12-18T11:09:00.000-05:00“There were a few comrades of the period who were ...“There were a few comrades of the period who were raising serious questions about the role of parasitism and the labor aristocracy. Likewise, there were historical references to the labor aristocracy by Engles, Lenin, the Communist International and indirectly Lin Piao.”<BR/><BR/>Actually, there were direct references to Lin Biao also. I believe the WUO’s Prairie Fire book contains a direct and attributed Lin quote. In addition, Bruce Franklin has produced a compilation of movement documents from the 60s and 70s, one nameless group in there directly quotes Lin Biao’s Long Live the Victory of People’s War!.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com